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jenny14 75T  
90121 posts
7/27/2017 11:19 am

morii

As you can guess, i was AGHAST, but not surprised by this announcement!

It is typical Trump! Ill-informed and bigoted!


A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing. George Bernard Shaw

Jenny


rosaenaluin 65F
10827 posts
7/27/2017 11:22 am

I heard today on the radio, that the cost for Viagra in the army is even higher then the presumened cost a transgender will need to get the operations done..
so.... what does that tell us...?

by the way, i dont think it is of anybody s bussniss to mess with such personal matters.
being in you moonfase ! did not withold any female soldier to take on actions.

but then again, your president is good in conquer and devide...


toby919 70M

7/27/2017 12:11 pm

You people put this nut case in charge do you really think any other country will trust the U.S. as he changes his mind more often than he changes his shorts


Jardian 48M

7/27/2017 12:24 pm

Um this title was click bait but illl bite none the less. Its Basic psychology Would you trust someone with a nuke who cant even decide if they are male or female ...Such mental issues at the base cause problems. WHich dont get me wrong if thats something you struggle with I can understand it but if you haveing that stuggle the military is not the place to have it. And those who have had medical operations and such already those are pretty major things to have done. And would already fail one out of service or put them on desk duty.

Just because your In the US and you do have freedoms Does not entitle you to anything. You have the freedom to be as wish to be You do not how ever have the freedom to put others at risk while you have this inner debate about what sex you are. You have to live with your choices or change them fact of life welcome to the real world. Your not entitled to anything.


Eli__ 115M  
3122 posts
7/27/2017 1:14 pm

    Quoting Jardian:
    Um this title was click bait but illl bite none the less. Its Basic psychology Would you trust someone with a nuke who cant even decide if they are male or female ...Such mental issues at the base cause problems. WHich dont get me wrong if thats something you struggle with I can understand it but if you haveing that stuggle the military is not the place to have it. And those who have had medical operations and such already those are pretty major things to have done. And would already fail one out of service or put them on desk duty.

    Just because your In the US and you do have freedoms Does not entitle you to anything. You have the freedom to be as wish to be You do not how ever have the freedom to put others at risk while you have this inner debate about what sex you are. You have to live with your choices or change them fact of life welcome to the real world. Your not entitled to anything.
click bait?..nope..it was pretty much straight forward...fact is you ARE entitled to things in our society..you are entitled to show you can do the job you are trained for and given to perform

I served from fall of '73 till jan of '84..ten years in the army and i'll tell you folks have mental issues in whatever role they fit or decide they are.My oldest daughter is gay..identifies more to the male side and served almost two tours before her hum vee was flipped over on its back after the vehicle in front of hers was reduced to parts by a IED.

Shes was medical discharged with a 100% disability to her back..she fought for a year down at Ft Hood to rehab to return to her unit...when she found out she couldn't make a career out of the Army for the country she loved she was devastated..then picked her self up and set about making a life for herself here

Personally i find your comments ill informed and frankly offensive ..if you said these things within earshot real time around me..i'd have to correct you and teach you some lessons..up close and personal


"doing drivebys in Mayberry since 1955"


drmgirl622 68F  
25881 posts
7/27/2017 3:23 pm

Sexual identification has nothing to do with being in the military, belonging to the local chapters of the VFW and American Legion I see many men and women that were just proud to serve their country !


IAmMichaelURKnot 62M
14380 posts
7/27/2017 5:11 pm

Damn... BDFS bloggers engaged in drama and I'm not involved.

Surely a sign of the eschaton.

Where's the popcorn?

I remember now.


Eli__ 115M  
3122 posts
7/27/2017 6:25 pm

    Quoting  :

first...you're a idiot ..

after serving a number of years with the same people..we knew a few were gay...in fact we had real issues with heart sick straight 19 yr olds who drank to much or got dumped via a letter ..never with your perceived "panties in a twist bullshit"

it didn't make a difference one iota when the shit hit the fan ..in fact..it wasn't my business and they didn't make mine theirs..


"doing drivebys in Mayberry since 1955"


Eli__ 115M  
3122 posts
7/27/2017 6:47 pm

    Quoting  :

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interesting points but reducing the military budget wasn't Trumps reason for this turd....Trump rushed this to nail down the last few remaining votes on a $790 billion spending bill that included money for his border wall.
House GOP members threatened to derail the spending bill if it didn't prohibit spending defense funds on treatment for transgender service people, some representatives sought out Trump to take care of the problem via executive action, he not only suspended funding but padded the deal with the extreme conservative backers by announcing the ban


"doing drivebys in Mayberry since 1955"


Jardian 48M

7/27/2017 9:50 pm

    Quoting Eli__:
    click bait?..nope..it was pretty much straight forward...fact is you ARE entitled to things in our society..you are entitled to show you can do the job you are trained for and given to perform

    I served from fall of '73 till jan of '84..ten years in the army and i'll tell you folks have mental issues in whatever role they fit or decide they are.My oldest daughter is gay..identifies more to the male side and served almost two tours before her hum vee was flipped over on its back after the vehicle in front of hers was reduced to parts by a IED.

    Shes was medical discharged with a 100% disability to her back..she fought for a year down at Ft Hood to rehab to return to her unit...when she found out she couldn't make a career out of the Army for the country she loved she was devastated..then picked her self up and set about making a life for herself here

    Personally i find your comments ill informed and frankly offensive ..if you said these things within earshot real time around me..i'd have to correct you and teach you some lessons..up close and personal
If you find my comment offensive that is you I said nothing that should offend you or Disrespect your daughters service. Being Gay and Transgender are two completely Different things the only one who I see needs to be taught something clearly is you. Have I served nope do I have friends and family who have both gay and straight yes. Hell I even know one fellow who has a thing for sheep of all things.

Bottom line is Being transgender and being Gay are not the same thing the only people who group it the same clearly dont know the difference, Transgender is thinking you should have been born the other sex. Being gay Is knowing what attracts you. One is secure one is not. And that is quoting every gay friend I have they wouldnt change what sex they are dont matter what role they take in the partner ship If this offends you cant help that. you being offended dont make you right either.


DancingDom 74M
22475 posts
7/28/2017 4:51 am

You talk about criminals...Trump and his cronies surely are. And not very enlightened. The military services woudl be hard pressed to replace those transgendered and gay members who serve. It is an appeasement of the religious right. Nothing more. Trump is a nut case, does not understand basics about how our country was setup in the Constitution and such. He thinks he owns everything and can do as he will. To me, soon he will be the King of Nothing.

"One Big Sky Covers Us All Equally"


Eli__ 115M  
3122 posts
7/28/2017 8:39 am

    Quoting Jardian:
    If you find my comment offensive that is you I said nothing that should offend you or Disrespect your daughters service. Being Gay and Transgender are two completely Different things the only one who I see needs to be taught something clearly is you. Have I served nope do I have friends and family who have both gay and straight yes. Hell I even know one fellow who has a thing for sheep of all things.

    Bottom line is Being transgender and being Gay are not the same thing the only people who group it the same clearly dont know the difference, Transgender is thinking you should have been born the other sex. Being gay Is knowing what attracts you. One is secure one is not. And that is quoting every gay friend I have they wouldnt change what sex they are dont matter what role they take in the partner ship If this offends you cant help that. you being offended dont make you right either.
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the ONLY thing that offends me is people that feel they are qualified to say whats acceptable in the military when their own qualification is .well..none ...the finger on the nuke button is similarly uninformed and without merit...
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how are you qualified to determine who and who isn't "secure"?..trans gendered folks that i have met already know what they are , the question they ask themselves is if they take it to reassignment surgery or not..that's neither my call or yours

If they passed the same service related mental and physical tests us straight people did....who are you to decide if they can serve?


"doing drivebys in Mayberry since 1955"


aliljaded 53F
8847 posts
7/28/2017 8:46 am

I think that if they want to serve and protect this beautiful free country of ours, let them. Anyone willing to give up their lives to protect ours is a Hero, no matter sexual orientation, color, etc. Just my two sense.

Be Well,
M.

"Men need to hunt. She obviously understands this. She’s offering herself as prey. Not easy prey. But willing.”


Dreamcatcher__ 87M
7019 posts
7/28/2017 3:23 pm

The Congress gives the military considerable latitude for deciding who does and who doesn't fill their needs. They generally take their time and after a few fits and starts come up with a sensible approach. Clearly the military was caught completely off guard by the latest presidential tweet.

That's why tweets form a lousy basis for communicating policy. It's usually impossible to see the reasoning behind them and that's one reason why I don't try to understand or defend them. It's a waste of time. They're not intended to communicate.


twisted2017 71M

7/30/2017 3:56 pm

I'd like to see this "president" in a POW camp. How long would he last?


Handyman555 74M

8/3/2017 4:46 pm

He wasn't a draft dodger, he was just medically unqualified. Too bad he didn't take qualifications into account when he took the job as president.


Eli__ 115M  
3122 posts
8/4/2017 5:22 pm

    Quoting Handyman555:
    He wasn't a draft dodger, he was just medically unqualified. Too bad he didn't take qualifications into account when he took the job as president.
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having your family Doctor sign off on you having a bone spur (on a foot you can't recall which one it was) after 3 deferments is not being medically unqualified
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"doing drivebys in Mayberry since 1955"



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